Comments on: Telangana Crisis – United We Stand, Divided We Fall – Part 2 http://www.sastwingees.org/2009/12/27/telangana-crisis-%e2%80%93-united-we-stand-divided-we-fall-%e2%80%93-part-2/ Knowledge is Scrumptious Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:13:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Arun g http://www.sastwingees.org/2009/12/27/telangana-crisis-%e2%80%93-united-we-stand-divided-we-fall-%e2%80%93-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-14664 Arun g Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:02:44 +0000 http://www.sastwingees.org/?p=1857#comment-14664 The discussion seems to have died down long ago,though any decision on Telangana appears to be just getting delayed. One thing is conspicuous by its absence in the discussion;the policies directed from 7th race course road that seems to be largely concerned with foreign investments in Hyderabad and less control to government rather than genuine concern to the common people or asserting the command of local govt for the distribution of wealth and development across the state.Looking from a distance for the past these many months I feel that the call for creating separate Telanga only reflects the opinion of the masses opposed to powerful business lobbies on the other side.I also feel that the analysis based on benefiting political parties in this blog is less important because parties themselves are divided between pro-Telanaga and united Andhra. The concern that "we lose... leverage we have in the federal system" and the thoughts reflecting the view that newly formed state is just a way to create a local elite that profits from this arrangement seems to be very true,but to call the Telangana movement as 'black-mailing and plane violence spurred by goonda elements' is not fair. The discussion seems to have died down long ago,though any decision on Telangana appears to be just getting delayed.
One thing is conspicuous by its absence in the discussion;the policies directed from 7th race course road that seems to be largely concerned with foreign investments in Hyderabad and less control to government rather than genuine concern to the common people or asserting the command of local govt for the distribution of wealth and development across the state.Looking from a distance for the past these many months I feel that the call for creating separate Telanga only reflects the opinion of the masses opposed to powerful business lobbies on the other side.I also feel that the analysis based on benefiting political parties in this blog is less important because parties themselves are divided between pro-Telanaga and united Andhra.
The concern that “we lose… leverage we have in the federal system” and the thoughts reflecting the view that newly formed state is just a way to create a local elite that profits from this arrangement seems to be very true,but to call the Telangana movement as ‘black-mailing and plane violence spurred by goonda elements’ is not fair.

]]> By: Vamsi http://www.sastwingees.org/2009/12/27/telangana-crisis-%e2%80%93-united-we-stand-divided-we-fall-%e2%80%93-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-13553 Vamsi Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:11:02 +0000 http://www.sastwingees.org/?p=1857#comment-13553 Ramdas, Thanks for your comments. You made excellent points. Students are unnecessarily becoming scapegoats. They are being fed steadily with propaganda that is paralleled by nothing I had witnessed in my life. The seeds of hatred that is being sown is not at all good for anyone. Ramdas, Thanks for your comments. You made excellent points. Students are unnecessarily becoming scapegoats. They are being fed steadily with propaganda that is paralleled by nothing I had witnessed in my life. The seeds of hatred that is being sown is not at all good for anyone.

]]> By: Vamsi http://www.sastwingees.org/2009/12/27/telangana-crisis-%e2%80%93-united-we-stand-divided-we-fall-%e2%80%93-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-13552 Vamsi Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:05:51 +0000 http://www.sastwingees.org/?p=1857#comment-13552 Babu uncle, thanks for your kind words. My hope is also on the consultations. Babu uncle, thanks for your kind words. My hope is also on the consultations.

]]> By: Vamsi http://www.sastwingees.org/2009/12/27/telangana-crisis-%e2%80%93-united-we-stand-divided-we-fall-%e2%80%93-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-13551 Vamsi Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:05:03 +0000 http://www.sastwingees.org/?p=1857#comment-13551 Senthil, I will try to get a part 3, but I am not sure how much we can get the 194os data in the public domain on the net. I will try but cannot promise. Senthil,
I will try to get a part 3, but I am not sure how much we can get the 194os data in the public domain on the net. I will try but cannot promise.

]]> By: Ramdas Nyayapati http://www.sastwingees.org/2009/12/27/telangana-crisis-%e2%80%93-united-we-stand-divided-we-fall-%e2%80%93-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-13548 Ramdas Nyayapati Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:31:56 +0000 http://www.sastwingees.org/?p=1857#comment-13548 This is a great discussion. It is a pity that an issue as big as this doesnt get adequate attention in the national media [mostly busy now with the Ruchika case and some needless discussions on 3idiots]. Being a life long non-andhraite, my two cents are as follows: 1) The division of AP looks inevitable now. With the kind of mass hysteria invoked in the region, this is not going to die down anytime soon. 2) This prolonged state of uncertainty is not good for the state. It is high time, they took a decision one way or the other and moved ahead with it. 3) The business channels have been talking about the steady decline of investment climate in the state. The impact of this current turmoil is going to be possibly far bigger than the Raju scam or even the global recession. I am not sure if those creating the chaos now are mindful of this. Again, sadly, there isn't enough awareness generation by the media. Such an important matter is sadly getting sidelined by breaking news about fasts, dharnas and rail-rokos 4) Irrespective of whether the state gets divided or not, there is another important lesson for the political and business bigwigs of the state - which is to not put all eggs in one basket. Today, the real deadlock is mainly due to the investments locked in and around Hyderabad. If enough attention was paid to development of other cities such as Vizag, Vijayawada, Tirupati and other cities, the rest of AP wouldnt have felt as much pinch as they do today. 5) If Telangana does become a separate state, I hope some sense will prevail in the rest of the region and there will be no further demands for a separate rayalaseema and a separate coastal andhra. Or, there will be no further disputes on whether it should be Karnool or Vijayawada as the state capital. It should be a place that is well connected and has the wherewithal to attract the right investments into the state. 6) And finally, I hope the students involved in the current problems from all regions do not become victims of the movements from both regions. It is very difficult to understand what students have to gain or loose. If anything, a smaller state will mean lesser quota in various national institutions. Trying to make your educational institutes more territorial and closing them to people from other geographies will only work to their disadvantage. Corporates would like to see students from institutes that have lot of diversity. I hope the current problems don't impact whatever little employement opportunities they have. This is a great discussion. It is a pity that an issue as big as this doesnt get adequate attention in the national media [mostly busy now with the Ruchika case and some needless discussions on 3idiots]. Being a life long non-andhraite, my two cents are as follows:

1) The division of AP looks inevitable now. With the kind of mass hysteria invoked in the region, this is not going to die down anytime soon.

2) This prolonged state of uncertainty is not good for the state. It is high time, they took a decision one way or the other and moved ahead with it.

3) The business channels have been talking about the steady decline of investment climate in the state. The impact of this current turmoil is going to be possibly far bigger than the Raju scam or even the global recession. I am not sure if those creating the chaos now are mindful of this. Again, sadly, there isn’t enough awareness generation by the media. Such an important matter is sadly getting sidelined by breaking news about fasts, dharnas and rail-rokos

4) Irrespective of whether the state gets divided or not, there is another important lesson for the political and business bigwigs of the state – which is to not put all eggs in one basket. Today, the real deadlock is mainly due to the investments locked in and around Hyderabad. If enough attention was paid to development of other cities such as Vizag, Vijayawada, Tirupati and other cities, the rest of AP wouldnt have felt as much pinch as they do today.

5) If Telangana does become a separate state, I hope some sense will prevail in the rest of the region and there will be no further demands for a separate rayalaseema and a separate coastal andhra. Or, there will be no further disputes on whether it should be Karnool or Vijayawada as the state capital. It should be a place that is well connected and has the wherewithal to attract the right investments into the state.

6) And finally, I hope the students involved in the current problems from all regions do not become victims of the movements from both regions. It is very difficult to understand what students have to gain or loose. If anything, a smaller state will mean lesser quota in various national institutions. Trying to make your educational institutes more territorial and closing them to people from other geographies will only work to their disadvantage. Corporates would like to see students from institutes that have lot of diversity. I hope the current problems don’t impact whatever little employement opportunities they have.

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