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		<title>By: Krithika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krithika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good post highlighting the anxiety of a pedestrian who tries to follow traffic rules! As you say, it is very true that it is only by God&#039;s saving hand that we are saved everyday that we use our public roads. Now, with the arrival of Nano and with the Software Industry bringing in change in the middle class lifestyle increasing the number of upper middle class familiies, every other person owns a car in our locality, but alas! there is no parking space!

The government should take some measures to plan and widen roads and create parking space and &#039;remind&#039; the citizens to follow road rules through some awareness programs. We citizens must also take it upon us to spread this message to our fellow-citizens and our next generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good post highlighting the anxiety of a pedestrian who tries to follow traffic rules! As you say, it is very true that it is only by God&#8217;s saving hand that we are saved everyday that we use our public roads. Now, with the arrival of Nano and with the Software Industry bringing in change in the middle class lifestyle increasing the number of upper middle class familiies, every other person owns a car in our locality, but alas! there is no parking space!</p>
<p>The government should take some measures to plan and widen roads and create parking space and &#8216;remind&#8217; the citizens to follow road rules through some awareness programs. We citizens must also take it upon us to spread this message to our fellow-citizens and our next generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun g</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde problem&#039;  aptly describes the behaviour of otherwise well-meaning citizens on the road.
PTI today reported a road rage related death in Mumbai where the victim was dragged under the car and brought to death just because the victim overtook the offender in his car.Variations of such incidents should be happening here in every cities.
Instead of govts vying to provide  Nanos with land at the cheapest possible price and media glamourizing things making an impression that the development index of the country is the number of middle class owning a car, let them compete to provide top quality public transport system&amp; service,roads and infrastructure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde problem&#8217;  aptly describes the behaviour of otherwise well-meaning citizens on the road.<br />
PTI today reported a road rage related death in Mumbai where the victim was dragged under the car and brought to death just because the victim overtook the offender in his car.Variations of such incidents should be happening here in every cities.<br />
Instead of govts vying to provide  Nanos with land at the cheapest possible price and media glamourizing things making an impression that the development index of the country is the number of middle class owning a car, let them compete to provide top quality public transport system&amp; service,roads and infrastructure.</p>
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		<title>By: senthil</title>
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		<dc:creator>senthil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another important reason is the lack of ownership.  Even within our campus, there is no ownership of an employee&#039;s bay or the floor, because of frequency of change in project, where employees move to different bay in different floor or building.  However, due to efficient, responsive and accountable administration department, our campus is clean, and maintained properly.  Suppose, if the admin dept is like our beurocracy, its most probably that our campus, bays and floors will not be maintained properly.  

Now, applying this analogy to the social problems..  Who owns the chennai city?  Do we own it?  Not only chennai, but other metros and tier-II cities.  There is no ownership, and hence no sense of ownership.  When there is no sense of ownership, there cannot be any behavioral responsibility, and hence the chaos in the roads and other public spaces.

Let&#039;s leave the ownership of the chennai city.. Do we have the ownership of atleast the street we live in?  Do we have the right or freedom to maintain our street as per our convenience?  Never..

There is an interesting comparison i would like to make b/w villages and cities.  In villages, every villager has the participation in village affairs, and hence everyone have the ownership of the decisions taken.  Enforcement of the decision is enforce through peer pressure, where every one follows that and makes other follow it.  This is what called consensus based administration.

However the cities and towns are modelled (infact &quot;Aped&quot; :) ) after western systems and hence they are centralised and authoritarian based.  ie, some person is authorised to look after the city/streets, and he is accountable only to his superiors.  The people have no role in it.  The administration takes decision on its sole discretion.  The difference b/w western system and the aped indian system is that in western system, even though decision is taken by the authority, they have the sense of purpose in it, and hence consider the feedback and opinion of the people living in that city.  Whereas in india, the sense of purpose is not present and the bureaucrats are isolated from common masses.  (Do we know the councilor  in our area???)

Thus we failed to learn from our traditional consensus based administrative system which existed for thousands of years.  Such consensus based decision making is evident from the organisational structure of budhism.  So it must have been present even before Buddhism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another important reason is the lack of ownership.  Even within our campus, there is no ownership of an employee&#8217;s bay or the floor, because of frequency of change in project, where employees move to different bay in different floor or building.  However, due to efficient, responsive and accountable administration department, our campus is clean, and maintained properly.  Suppose, if the admin dept is like our beurocracy, its most probably that our campus, bays and floors will not be maintained properly.  </p>
<p>Now, applying this analogy to the social problems..  Who owns the chennai city?  Do we own it?  Not only chennai, but other metros and tier-II cities.  There is no ownership, and hence no sense of ownership.  When there is no sense of ownership, there cannot be any behavioral responsibility, and hence the chaos in the roads and other public spaces.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s leave the ownership of the chennai city.. Do we have the ownership of atleast the street we live in?  Do we have the right or freedom to maintain our street as per our convenience?  Never..</p>
<p>There is an interesting comparison i would like to make b/w villages and cities.  In villages, every villager has the participation in village affairs, and hence everyone have the ownership of the decisions taken.  Enforcement of the decision is enforce through peer pressure, where every one follows that and makes other follow it.  This is what called consensus based administration.</p>
<p>However the cities and towns are modelled (infact &#8220;Aped&#8221; <img src='http://www.sastwingees.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) after western systems and hence they are centralised and authoritarian based.  ie, some person is authorised to look after the city/streets, and he is accountable only to his superiors.  The people have no role in it.  The administration takes decision on its sole discretion.  The difference b/w western system and the aped indian system is that in western system, even though decision is taken by the authority, they have the sense of purpose in it, and hence consider the feedback and opinion of the people living in that city.  Whereas in india, the sense of purpose is not present and the bureaucrats are isolated from common masses.  (Do we know the councilor  in our area???)</p>
<p>Thus we failed to learn from our traditional consensus based administrative system which existed for thousands of years.  Such consensus based decision making is evident from the organisational structure of budhism.  So it must have been present even before Buddhism.</p>
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		<title>By: Abdul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abdul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much Subba for your kind words and if I may say graphic and detailed observations.:)

Since this post is on behaviour on roads, I do not want to entirely diagress but there is one moment when societal conciousness among our citizens reaches a high: and ie when there are alerts of pandemics. Several years ago when there was a scare of outbreak of plague in Surat, people kept their interiors spic and span but the rubbish outside the compound walls would just not go away. And no amount of travelling in safe vehicles could safeguard people against the germs. It is sad but true that such health alerts are required to awaken our citizenry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much Subba for your kind words and if I may say graphic and detailed observations.:)</p>
<p>Since this post is on behaviour on roads, I do not want to entirely diagress but there is one moment when societal conciousness among our citizens reaches a high: and ie when there are alerts of pandemics. Several years ago when there was a scare of outbreak of plague in Surat, people kept their interiors spic and span but the rubbish outside the compound walls would just not go away. And no amount of travelling in safe vehicles could safeguard people against the germs. It is sad but true that such health alerts are required to awaken our citizenry.</p>
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		<title>By: Abdul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abdul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kumaran for your valuable observations. 

I did not use the term &#039;national pride&#039; in as much as &#039;national space&#039;. Space is the kind of relationship that people have with their physical and social environment. 

While population and congestion etc are indeed factors there is a behavioural relationship here of people  to space that needs to be studied. As I have mentioned, there is a sense of haste to reach the destination without an eye to what a fellow-citizen on the same road is going through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kumaran for your valuable observations. </p>
<p>I did not use the term &#8216;national pride&#8217; in as much as &#8216;national space&#8217;. Space is the kind of relationship that people have with their physical and social environment. </p>
<p>While population and congestion etc are indeed factors there is a behavioural relationship here of people  to space that needs to be studied. As I have mentioned, there is a sense of haste to reach the destination without an eye to what a fellow-citizen on the same road is going through.</p>
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