http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110610/jsp/opinion/story_14094754.jsp

The recent episodes, had very well proved, what the government will do with some one who cannot be bullied.. As i said earlier, anna has been manipulated earlier, and now he himself is saying govt cheated him.. Now, he joining baba ramdev’s protest, congress takes a different attitude.. No more media hypes around him now a days.. his utility value is over..

Forming opinions based on getting impressed by media is NOT a scientific temper.. It is looking beyond these media hypes..

On the anna hazare protest vs baba ramdev’s protest, i would like to quote the following news, that deals with fundamentals of organising a protest..

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Rs-18-crore-already-pumped-into-Baba-Ramdevs-stir-Report/articleshow/8712053.cms

This gives us an idea on the ground work that is needed to organise nationwide mass protest.. and we can easily guess from anna hazare’s protest that it is a media hype, to project soft alternate face to counter baba ramdev.. as expected, anna hazare failed and based on his recent interview, it seems he was fooled by persons surrounding him..

Now the government is panicked on baba ramdev’s fast.. bcoz, of his mass following, and more than 1 lakh people participate with him on his fast.. Also as a yoga guru, he can sustain his fast for any number of months (NOT just days), and there are techniques in yoga for that.. i have personally seen a yoga master here, living just with water for three months..

One of my earlier comment is still in moderation.. i am reposting it without the links..

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Thanks for your detailed comment.. the author Gen. Sinha , in his article, had very clearly mentioned that it is the mutiny in indian army and navy, that shook the foundations of british empire in india.. I am quoting relevant paragraphs below..

The INA trials generated a patriotic surge all over the country and was a big shot in the arm for our freedom struggle. This was followed by the Naval Mutiny in Mumbai and Karachi, Army mutiny in Jabalpur and Air Force mutiny in Karachi. This violently shook the foundations of the British Empire in India.

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The British feared an uprising on the lines of what had happened in 1857. Many British civilians were scattered in different parts of the country. Plan Gondola catered for their initial evacuation to temporary camps in the provinces, at provincial capitals and some selected convenient locations.

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The paper written by the Director Military Intelligence had a novel security classification – Top Secret, Not For Indian Eyes. My predecessor a British officer in a hurry to go back home to the UK on demobilization, had handed over the key of the almirah containing classified documents to me without checking the documents. This paper was written in the wake of the INA trials.

It stated that the Indian officers of the Army could be divided into three categories – those commissioned before 1933 from Sandhurst, the pre-war officers commissioned between 1933 and 1939, and the wartime emergency commissioned officers. The Sandhurst officers were considered more reliable. They were now middle aged with family commitments and did not nurture much grievance as they had been treated well. They were very few, their total number being about thirty. The pre-war, 1933 to 1939 officers had a grievance because their emoluments were not at par with their British counterparts. This disparity was removed during the war but its memory and of some other discriminations still rankled with them. The wartime officers numbering about 12,000 against a total of 500 of the two previous categories, were considered most unreliable.

You seem to be missing the important links in the history.. the 1857 war of independance, almost thrown away the british east india company from india, and it took them a year to reconquer.. It is after this, they started planting division among hindus and muslims at a socio-politico level.. the INC was formed to create a controlled platform for people to vent their anger, and thus weaning the common people from revolutionaries.. Once they formed INC, it is britishers who supported Muslim League’s demand, to keep hindus and muslims separated..

The communalisation was further strengthened by Gandhi himself, when he started the Khilafat Movement, which jinnah himself opposed at that time. Muslim nationalism has not kicked off by then..
The gandhi’s khilafat movement led to Moplah massacre, for which gandhi defended & justified the maruading mopla muslims as god fearing..

you call this rascal as epitome of ahimsa and satyagraha.. Please read annie besant’s vivid description of moplah massacre..

Gandhi’s ahimsa and sathyagraha is a perverted concept, just like his sexuality is perverted, as recently exposed in NyTimes..

I think you dont get the core point in our discussion..

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I am not really sure why you came to the conclusion that me not accepting Baba Ram Dev is same as me playing to the tunes of media.

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Its plain simple.. if you had met both anna and ramdev personally and say anna had touched your heart, its a direct experience.. but that doesnt happen here..
What you and me know about both of them are only through Media (Newspaper and TV).. so touching our heart depends on how the media company projects the news or article.. which means, our opinion is decided by those corporate media who decides what and how should an article appear..

Do you accept this reality?

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You dont like Anna Hazaare’s protest, but have no problem with Baba Ram Dev’s
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Its not about anna vs hazare.. the question is how our opinion about both of them are shaped by a third party.. which means, controlling this third party, any one can manipulate public opinion..

I dont say anna hazare is bad or ramdev is good… i agree both are genuine.. the issue is baba ramdev is independant in his protest, the crowd he gathered is through his own yoga program across country… whereas on the other hand, anna hazare is being used by vested interests for a political motive..

Here i am only asking for a rational analysis using scientific temper

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You like the romanticism of revolution, but do not support Naxals – why? And how they are different than Bose? May be they are better in some respects.

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If we are to support Naxals, then we are the first one to be shot by them.. I think, this needs a different thread to debate..