Comments on: The Real History of India – Part 6: Aryan Invasion Theory

By: Neville Ramdeholl

Neville Ramdeholl — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:20:58 +0000

Hi, This is just a short note on the Aryan subject. I find it amusing that some people in India and abroad who do not believe in the genetic origins of the Indo-European as appearing in the white skinned upper caste Indians a mere couple thousand years ago. But they believe entirely in the African genetic origin of man’s makeup millions of years ago as a source of modern humans. Its preposterous and laughable.

By: Sukumar

Sukumar — Mon, 12 May 2008 14:32:46 +0000

Neville,
Please read my post. I have counted up the concordances of horses/steeds and proved that horses/chariots were more important.

By: Neville Ramdeholl

Neville Ramdeholl — Sun, 11 May 2008 20:25:50 +0000

Hi, I have read with interest those who are making a case for an Aryan Indus. But

excavations have a long way to go. So far the Indus have not shown the slightest

evidence for having horse and chariots. In the case for horses, I can bet that if the

Indus script is deciphered there will not be one mention of horses. I don’t know why

the case is being drummed into our ears that the Indus is of Aryan origin. Aside

from this, the theory that there was a migration of tribes from India to parts of

Europe, then if this is so, wouldn’t the supposed Indus Aryans left their seals and

scripts in those places? The one thing the Indus Aryanists cannot explain is the

Mitanni documents where pure Sanskrit language is written and probably spoken. It

destroys their out of India migration.The Aryans were superb horse breeders and the

Mitanni documents has so far stumped the Indigenist Aryanists. The Rigvedas is

replete with horses and for those who still maintain that the Indus civilization is

Aryan, here are a few examples of Aryan knowledge of horse breeding in the

RigVedas:

BOOK HYMN TITLE VERSE DESCRIPTION are:

2 1 Agni 5 givest noble steeds

2 1 Agni 16 with kine and steeds

2 2 Agni 10 valor with the steed

2 2 Agni 13 kine and steeds

2 10 Agni 2 dark steeds or ruddy

2 11 Indra 6 two Bay steeds

2 11 Indra 11 Indra, thy Bay steeds

2 18 Indra 18 thy two Bay Coursers

3 35 Indra 3 Tawny Horses

3 36 Indra 9 Lord of the Tawny Coursers

3 42 Indra 7 by thy Stallions

3 43 Indra 4 let thy two Bay Stallions

3 44 Indra 2&4 Lord of Tawny Steeds

3 30 Indra 2 with thy Bay horses

3 43 Indra 23 a sluggish steed

5 53/64 Maruts 3&9 They came with winged steeds

5 56 Maruts 6 the bright red mares

5 59 Maruts 5 like steeds of ruddy color

The Aryans were super horsebreeders and they knew it like the back of their hands

and the categories of horses that they used for transport and war, there was the

Bays, the Coursers, the mares, the stallions and the steeds chargers They also knew

flying horses which connect them with their mythologic Greek cousins.

By: Sukumar

Sukumar — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:56:38 +0000

Great. Another point we agree upon. I have pointed out several errors commited by historians over the years in this series. Aryan “Invasion” fell out of favor in the historian community a long time ago. But at the same time, no one will agree with the “indigenous” Aryan theory as well. The fact that an invasion did not occur does not mean they didn’t come from the outside. Most of the arguments against Aryan Invasion try to disprove that Invasion didn’t happen with the idea that thereby they can disprove Aryans coming from the outside as well. This is one of the oldest tricks in the scientific argument playbook – called “burying or destroying the strawman”. There are even people going around trying to disprove that Dravidians were not “pushed” down to the south. That idea that Dravidians were pushed down to the South by the invading Aryans is a very old theory and has been abandoned a long time ago. But for our populist historians, it is a great hunting ground for disproving Aryan Invasion. Go figure.

If you actually read my post right in the prolog i say this “The words “Aryan Invasion” seem to suggest that there was a sudden death for the Dravidians, the words “Aryan Infusion” seem to suggest a benign and gentle influence, the words “Indigenous Aryans” seem to suggest that the IVC was Aryan and they were always indigenous. I believe none of this to be true. We will see why, shortly. I would like to use the term “Aryanization”. It is the only one that explains the modern day Hinduism, which is a clever amalgamation of the Dravidian religion, Jainism and Buddhism, created using a combination of violent incursions/violence, proselytizations, influence and other techniques as appropriate .”

The above statement is what i believe happened – “Aryanization” of India.

By: Ranjith

Ranjith — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:21:52 +0000

“History is also a scientific pursuit, when new evidence comes in, views change. Physics, Chemistry any of the sciences, it is the same case”

Unfortunately, it appears that, the history in the case of “Aryan invasion” was not a scientific pursuit and not at all like physics or chemistry! In physics and chemistry, a view itself is formed based on some scientific evidence. Here, the “view” that Aryans invaded was formed without any scientific evidence at all. That is why it had to be changed!