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	<title>Comments on: Thanks to Google - the WIMP User Interface is Dead</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sastwingees.org/2006/05/08/thanks-to-google-the-wimp-user-interface-is-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't always understand why there's a lot of hype about different "enterprise" databases and why no one talks about free &lt;a href="http://www.sqlite.org"  rel="nofollow"&gt;SQLite&lt;/a&gt; - IMHO,  THE best database engine ever created. Genious database. Moreover, its FREE and PUBLIC DOMAIN! It is compact, very easy, and powerful. It can be used in MANY business applications. However there's almost NO PR for it. If you disagree with me then go play games - &lt;a href="http://www.calmgames.com"  rel="nofollow"&gt;download games&lt;/a&gt; and play. You probably do not know what i'm talking about. In many cases SQLite database is fast as MySQL. This is amazing database engine!!! Just go to website and learn. Oracle and MySQL can be used only for VERY HUGE database clusters. In most cases SQLite is more than enough for MANY MANY companies.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t always understand why there&#8217;s a lot of hype about different &#8220;enterprise&#8221; databases and why no one talks about free <a href="http://www.sqlite.org"  rel="nofollow">SQLite</a> - IMHO,  THE best database engine ever created. Genious database. Moreover, its FREE and PUBLIC DOMAIN! It is compact, very easy, and powerful. It can be used in MANY business applications. However there&#8217;s almost NO PR for it. If you disagree with me then go play games - <a href="http://www.calmgames.com"  rel="nofollow">download games</a> and play. You probably do not know what i&#8217;m talking about. In many cases SQLite database is fast as MySQL. This is amazing database engine!!! Just go to website and learn. Oracle and MySQL can be used only for VERY HUGE database clusters. In most cases SQLite is more than enough for MANY MANY companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 10:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sridhar,

Tnanks for dropping by. SQLnet seems like a neat idea. I also checked out the search-for-features on Zoho writer. That is a good idea as well.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sridhar,</p>
<p>Tnanks for dropping by. SQLnet seems like a neat idea. I also checked out the search-for-features on Zoho writer. That is a good idea as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 07:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sukumar:

Interesting post. At AdventNet, we have a couple of interesting  products related to this. The first is SQLOne Search http://sqlone.com which is a way to provide a search interface to a set of relational databases. We apply algorithms to extract the navigational information present in the database (using foreign keys and such), and use that to perform search. We can also generate join queries using that search interface. In effect, it can be used as an alternative mechanism to generate queries.

From an end user perspective, we are experimenting with a search based UI in our Zoho Writer product http://zohowriter - here, we augment a typical toolbar/menu with a "Search your feature" box. The user can guess at something, and it will list the related commands, and when the user makes a selection, it will directly go to the relevant screen. This is an alternative to deeply nested menus.

Your feedback is appreciated.

Regards,

Sridhar Vembu

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sukumar:</p>
<p>Interesting post. At AdventNet, we have a couple of interesting  products related to this. The first is SQLOne Search <a href="http://sqlone.com" rel="nofollow">http://sqlone.com</a> which is a way to provide a search interface to a set of relational databases. We apply algorithms to extract the navigational information present in the database (using foreign keys and such), and use that to perform search. We can also generate join queries using that search interface. In effect, it can be used as an alternative mechanism to generate queries.</p>
<p>From an end user perspective, we are experimenting with a search based UI in our Zoho Writer product <a href="http://zohowriter" rel="nofollow">http://zohowriter</a> - here, we augment a typical toolbar/menu with a &#8220;Search your feature&#8221; box. The user can guess at something, and it will list the related commands, and when the user makes a selection, it will directly go to the relevant screen. This is an alternative to deeply nested menus.</p>
<p>Your feedback is appreciated.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Sridhar Vembu</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 22:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a variety of reasons - technological, information architecture, commercial, security centered etc.. I do not think that the enteprise world would accept a common interface – a google centric one that easily – the questions of demonstrated value would be far more difficult to answer. The deployment of technology inside enteprises are generally far more sophisticated and complex than that seen in the consumer world.Enteprises taxonomy keeps evolving and to think of a unified interface for search and synthesis looks far too complicated - aside from the fact that more speialised players other than Google are already at it and doing a good job.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a variety of reasons - technological, information architecture, commercial, security centered etc.. I do not think that the enteprise world would accept a common interface – a google centric one that easily – the questions of demonstrated value would be far more difficult to answer. The deployment of technology inside enteprises are generally far more sophisticated and complex than that seen in the consumer world.Enteprises taxonomy keeps evolving and to think of a unified interface for search and synthesis looks far too complicated - aside from the fact that more speialised players other than Google are already at it and doing a good job.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 15:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ganesh,

Good point. Thanks also for the pointer to some interesting blogs.

1. Overall, i think i did not do a good job in the introduction. To clarify, I am merely talking about the low-context, low-semantic queries that the READ part of OLTP systems fulfill (what i referred to in the post as "basic information retrieval needs") . I was planning to write a separate post on that so that it becomes clearer as to what i am talking about. Your comments have hastened the need for that.

2. What Google has shown us, is that mostly your information retrieval needs can be fulflled by a simple search interface. For people looking for information that has a lot of context and semantics, they need to use better, more sophisticated tools. Although Google may not be the first company to build a Simple UI,  I think it has certainly turned the spotlight back on simplicity.

3. Now, if you look at traditional UI design inside enterprises, you tend to clutter up your interfaces with WIMPs because you are trying to make sure that the high-context, high-semantics task can be accomplished. This results in forcing the person with simple needs to learn a complex UI.  In the olden days, command-line interfaces accomplished this beautifully. If you had an advanced need, you could use more parameters on the command line. Of course, GUIs definitely improve productivity and we can't really go back to the command line. But, you can definitely try not to stuff the Complex UI down the throats of simple user needs.

4. Additionally, my point is, if you adopt Search as the unifying UI for all your simple information needs from OLTP systems, you can probably focus your UI design on more complex needs.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ganesh,</p>
<p>Good point. Thanks also for the pointer to some interesting blogs.</p>
<p>1. Overall, i think i did not do a good job in the introduction. To clarify, I am merely talking about the low-context, low-semantic queries that the READ part of OLTP systems fulfill (what i referred to in the post as &#8220;basic information retrieval needs&#8221;) . I was planning to write a separate post on that so that it becomes clearer as to what i am talking about. Your comments have hastened the need for that.</p>
<p>2. What Google has shown us, is that mostly your information retrieval needs can be fulflled by a simple search interface. For people looking for information that has a lot of context and semantics, they need to use better, more sophisticated tools. Although Google may not be the first company to build a Simple UI,  I think it has certainly turned the spotlight back on simplicity.</p>
<p>3. Now, if you look at traditional UI design inside enterprises, you tend to clutter up your interfaces with WIMPs because you are trying to make sure that the high-context, high-semantics task can be accomplished. This results in forcing the person with simple needs to learn a complex UI.  In the olden days, command-line interfaces accomplished this beautifully. If you had an advanced need, you could use more parameters on the command line. Of course, GUIs definitely improve productivity and we can&#8217;t really go back to the command line. But, you can definitely try not to stuff the Complex UI down the throats of simple user needs.</p>
<p>4. Additionally, my point is, if you adopt Search as the unifying UI for all your simple information needs from OLTP systems, you can probably focus your UI design on more complex needs.</p>
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